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Ordinal Logistic models and the importance of reading manuals
Toward the end of the last semester, the answer I kept giving everybody
was "you have to read the manual for the software you use, and if
there's no manual, get different software." I was reminded of the
problem when I ran 2 ordinal logit models this morning, and the signs
came out exactly backward. One is predicting Y<1 and the other predicts
Y>1. If you aren't looking closely, you can really get in a tail spin.
Here's some R output from 2 procedures, one vglm (from VGAM package) and
the other lrm (from the Design package). Note the sign reversal and also
the fact that vglm reports the t stat, while lrm gives Wald Chi Square
> summary(vglm(punish~Vict,cumulative(parallel=T),data=dat))
Call:
vglm(formula = punish ~ Vict, family = cumulative(parallel = T),
data = dat)
Pearson Residuals:
Min 1Q Median 3Q Max
logit(P[Y<=1]) -1.2173 -0.43163 -0.39514 1.33643 1.51802
logit(P[Y<=2]) -1.3670 -1.23322 0.43162 0.47613 1.41605
logit(P[Y<=3]) -2.1809 0.20569 0.31432 0.81117 0.85266
Coefficients:
Value Std. Error t value
(Intercept):1 -0.947516 0.40285 -2.352023
(Intercept):2 0.016581 0.38347 0.043239
(Intercept):3 1.373316 0.43149 3.182743
VictMale 0.247066 0.47125 0.524283
Number of linear predictors: 3
Names of linear predictors: logit(P[Y<=1]), logit(P[Y<=2]), logit(P[Y<=3])
Dispersion Parameter for cumulative family: 1
Residual Deviance: 166.386 on 179 degrees of freedom
Log-likelihood: -83.193 on 179 degrees of freedom
Number of Iterations: 4
> lrm(punish~Vict,data=dat)
Logistic Regression Model
lrm(formula = punish ~ Vict, data = dat)
Frequencies of Responses
0 1 2 3
19 14 17 11
Frequencies of Missing Values Due to Each Variable
punish Vict
0 24
Obs Max Deriv Model L.R. d.f. P C
Dxy
61 2e-11 0.28 1 0.5997 0.525
0.049
Gamma Tau-a R2 Brier
0.102 0.037 0.005 0.214
Coef S.E. Wald Z P
y>=1 0.94752 0.4049 2.34 0.0193
y>=2 -0.01658 0.3810 -0.04 0.9653
y>=3 -1.37331 0.4257 -3.23 0.0013
Vict=Male -0.24707 0.4710 -0.52 0.5999
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